And here is where you show that you don't know what you're talking about at all. The Joker has been in the comics before as being scar faced. In fact, there is no ONE look to the Joker. He has seen many incarnations. The Joker graphic novel shows him as having scars covered by make-up . The Joker has also had tattoos before we get on Leto's look. If we're getting on the Dark Knight Trilogy...Batman Begins was based on Batman Year One. The Dark Knight was based largely on The Long Halloween. And the Dark Knight Rises was based on parts of The Dark Knight Returns and Knight Fall. Many of the elements were completely true to canon. Man of Steel had elements of Byrnes' limited series of the same title with components from Superman Earth One and the New 52. Very much variations of canon and true to the characters. However, Marvel has butchered its canon from the first Iron Man to the Avengers Age of Ultron down to Ant-Man. All to create a story and compensate for the characters they don't own. Or for the sake of making cash on characters of that name. So no. By comparison, DC has been more true to their characters than Marvel has ever been. The DCEU is only beginning to hit its stride so we have no idea where it will lead. But thus far, Wheeler is right, Marvel is just sort of doing its own thing-throwing things together and making bank on name recognition and brand loyalty alone.
Honestly I don't see it as a singular character's story. The trailer as far as I'm concerned balanced the elements of both Superman and Batman. However, it really appears to be about the joining of two forces on opposite ends of the spectrum of Justice...at least in the beginning. I think it's going be a well balanced prelude to the Justice League. But I've never seen it as either characters movie alone.
Back at it I see
Batman right off the pages of the comics.
@undeadslayer4 Unless they find a way to engineer it in a lab somewhere to dissect and find a weakness for Superman or by total accident, I highly doubt there will be Kryptonite in this movie. There was nothing in Man of Steel to establish Kryptonite being a part of this universe. Looking at the fact that they used wormhole technology to warp through space rather than travel the distance it would take to cross one galaxy into another and again another--which would be impossible if we're to believe baby Kal-El would survive the trip--there was no way for the shards of the remains of Krypton would have traveled with his or Zod's ship. That aside, Superman was sent into space days before the planet exploded so that totally does away with the notion of Kryptonite. And again, it would be impossible for Zod to have carted the rock in tow with him for 33 years wandering space and they hadn't suffered any adverse affects from it as well. So, no, I don't think it's Kryptonite or at least not in the traditional sense. I believe it's something else entirely possibly engineered as a way of stopping Superman or at least slowing him.
@superman81 I appreciate the variety in the comic book movies coming across the board. I think that Zack Snyder-his style, his vision, it offers a certain look that creates a brand unique to DC. I rather like the idea that this is the most LIKE a comic book we have ever seen these movies next to Watchmen. And that is doesn't look like something Marvel has done. The pallet and style of Marvel and their directors don't really vary much. Whedon's Avengers looked much like what had been done with the first Iron Man in terms of style and use of color and CGI. What worked for them works. It also works that the fact remains they were the first to introduce a shared universe and the prospect of that kept filling seats. Avengers was a payoff and thus the seats and anticipation for many continue with the promise that there are more Avengers films to come. Snyder's vision revitalized DC in a way that he has the ability not only to shoot panel for panel a visual portrait but he understands the comic book world and he isn't afraid to do things no other films are doing. Couple that with his stylized action and ability to bring characters to life in an ensemble way and you have a DC universe that DC fans have been dying to see on screen. It's a hyper realism that doesn't forget that it is a fantasy. Man of Steel was heavily influenced by Nolan and his presence. That isn't the case here. BvS is coming from another place of inspiration and it is evident in what we've seen from this trailer. Looking ahead, I'm stoked for seeing his vision realized as this is exactly what I'm looking for. Something that sets DC apart from Marvel, an intelligent story, some stellar visuals, and characters done in a way that haven't been imagined before in a live-action format.
@c-a-r-t-m-a-n lol! I'm still getting used to this version of you. It was just recently you were hating DC so for you to give Man of Steel any props and to have actually liked Watchmen, 300, or Sucker Punch was a bit of a shocker. However...I HATE Sucker Punch. I felt like I was sucker punched having watched it.
@c-a-r-t-m-a-n In a way it keeps in the realm of fantasy, until the day we actually see a man fly in a red cape I love the fantastic elements of his films-these films in particular. And yet there is a certain beauty to it. It's suspended realism. The contrasting hues representative of the characters, Batman and Superman, are beautiful. It enhances the characteristics of them while giving us the characters from the page. On a different note, I'm quite surprised that you actually liked those films you named.
@shuabert Wow...to that, we must agree to disagree buddy.
@thedude1 One more thing, my suggestion about that being the remains of Arkham Manor, that could also be how Lex ties into the Suicide Squad movie.
@thedude1 Could this Riddler easter egg perhaps be a direct linkage to Suicide Squad? Remember earlier reports showed that Suicide Squad and the events within that movie will take place somewhere between Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Could that be the ruined remains of Arkham Manor following the aftermath of those events? Did you notice that the kneeling soldiers had Superman's shields on their shoulders? Could it be a ploy by Lex with a private organization to further fuel the fever of fear and outrage by setting Superman up with this? And one more thing and I'll finish my rant...As Alfred speaks-the scene where Bruce Wayne is revealed contemplating wearing the cape and cowl again-it resonated differently with me I think. I believe that dialogue may prove to be crucial to the relationship between Batman and Superman in that it isn't necessarily meant for Bruce but more a reference to Superman and the anguish he must endure by having the naysayers attack his efforts. What happens when a man with that kind of power loses control to his anger? Because no doubt, there is going to be a conflict at first between them. But I can speculate that it would be Alfred's wisdom that helps his perspective change. Could be a moment after he gets his ass handed to him and realizes that if Superman wanted, he could have truly hurt him, even killed him...but didn't. Okay, I'm done. lol!
@c-a-r-t-m-a-n In all honesty, I believe this was done to one, appease many people that wanted to see some footage that had begun clamoring for it for months now. And two, to give a feeling of the sort of visual aesthetic once could expect from the reveal of the new costumes to Batman in motion to his vehicles. Third, to give a sense of the arc and theme in terms of the people's reception to Superman now that he is among the world. Though not a lot was given in this trailer more than bit clips here and there it was still a lot to absorb as you watch. The angelic presence people see with Superman among the clouds and bleeding sun as they reach for him. The desperation. How he is regarded by some as a deity-kneeling before him. The outrage..."False God" graffitied to his tribute statue. One shot in particular that I question. Was there an easter egg thrown in there where Batman stood in the rundown ruin of a building? The Riddler's symbol was on one of the pillars in that manor revealed when the lightning flashed. Was that a connection to Suicide Squad now that we know the movies somehow intersect? There was a lot to absorb for sure. I do agree with you that them staring each other down was a highlight but my favorite was the reveal of Batman stepping from what looked to be wreckage revealing him in full form in the classic Bat Suit.
@c-a-r-t-m-a-n Who are you? lol! Seriously?! The mellow you scares me. Just poking fun at you...
@h-ryuga I'm with you. Tonally it makes perfect sense for DC and these two characters. I have a feeling it won't flop. The trailers to follow and the building hype will continue to grow until tickets will be sold out before you get to the booth at the theater.