Joined March 17th, 2008
Weel at least there will be TVs to accommodate the bluray release of AVATAR in 3d
interesting choice for a TV show remake. Potential to nab all those High School Musical fans who are teenagers now, & to go into a TV show like the original. But....ah....npot my cup of tea. The TV show in the 80's wasnt either. Points for an honest attempt though
agreed Remy72883, ironically, we now have a better chance of meeting the man as a politician than when he was an actor! (now to solve the problem of being on the other side of the world! dang)
loved the first 2, didnt get into the game enough, but welcome the 3rd movie!
@K man I see your point, & with your profession would have to give you the debatable point. Your profession is photography, & mine is stunt work which I do frequently here in my homeland New Zealand. Who knows, we may have even bumped into each other on set of Wolverine down in Queenstown! However, I based my comments on experience, & I have found that when we shoot our blocking tapes with hi def digital, we can go up to 8, 830 pm without assisted light, where as when we look at film footage they occassionaly get us on when doing behind the scenes stuff, we almost disappear into the darkness!. I guess I really meant light exposure. I have seen shot for shot film & hi def digital, & we rarely need half as much light than we need for film, it just seems the allowance for light exposure with digital is more forgiving. But you're the professional in photography, so I give you the benefit of the doubt. To answer your questions on why directors like the man himself Spielberg (my personal fav with Cameron & Lucas) using or not using digital, I can only assume was rhetorical what with the plus' & minus' mentioned & concurred. I can also say that a huge decider is the cinematographer &/or the DoP, who onset can be real difficult to deal with when trying to get from them how they want action shot vs how the action director wants the action shot :) Either way the points you raise are informative & a far cry from the "feel" you were pointing out in your original question, which I gave my opinion. Like I said, I can understand your grief, especially with your profession, it must be like comparing photos from an over the counter instamatic to a shot from a high end Canon! To date, there was not a movie that I have seen that has come out in digital that in respect to the finished film, didnt help set the tone. Your mention of Apocolypto was a worthy note, & I have to say in the first 10 minutes I felt the same as you (especially with the practical effects when CG could easily have done the hunted/killed wild boar) but when it got to the scene of conversations in the village, I felt like I was watching live footage of a village because of the doco look, which in rich deluxe film would have given it a lush look, but would have always reminded me I was watching a film. in addition I guess that filming in the actual jungle could have been an arse to lug the heavier film cameras through the jungle :P In closing, I have to say- I still believe a good movie is not based on the format it's shot in, & your original pointers clearly give the opinion that digital ruins a movie. PS:If you've been here to do photo shoots on 30 Days of nights, any of the LOTR movies, Laundry Warrior (now named Warriors Way) then I really do need to insist we meet in person, cause I've worked on all of them. Working on one now called Seizure as head action choreographer, so if you're down here in the next 2 years to do some work on it, be sure to let me know.
@ K-Man, the quality of a movie is not based on the format it's shot in. If that was so, then short films around the world would not have the cult following they derive. Hong Kong cinema would not have the fanatism it's reputed for. I can understand your POV, but I dont agree with it. Digital vs film has many plus' on it's side. It recieves light alot better than film, which is one of the reasons Mann went that road, with the amount of night shooting he was doing in both Collateral & Miami Vice. This is easily seen in the scene with Crockett & Tubbs driving down Miami with the POV on the hood looking through the windshield, in the bacground you can still make out clearly the iconic palms, & even night clouds. This amount of apperture is crucial in scenes like the end with the outdoor shhot out. Another advantage is the reality it conveys. If you're a fan of movies like Quarrantine & Cloverfield, the attempt to have that "on the spot" filming is enhanced with this digital format because of the relation the audience can have with its fimiliar atmosphere. Lastly, the production costs. 35mm film is extremely costly, with 60 seconds worth of shooting on 600feet of film...that's an entire film case. So bloopers & screw ups literally cost hundreds. Then the ability to edit on the go, instead of capturing & then colourgrading ONCE the film had been processed. That's time, therefore man hours, therefore cost. The deluxe look that film gives is great for movies that give that sence of escapism, like Xmen or 300. With cameras like Oakleys Red Camera, then it's just a matter of time when we can enjoy the best of both worlds when ever we want, but if you're gonna go watch a Michael Mann movie & expect 35mm film, I think you should expect to be let down. He seems to have made his choice. I think only a studio & particular producers would force him to use 35mm film again...but then, Mann got where he is doing what he wants, so let's leave him to it. A good movie is about story telling, not the format it's filmed in...let me guess, you LOVE Blu Ray & have a full HD theatre at home? & you were looking forward to this movie because it starred Depp & Bale, & not because Mann was directing? If that's the case, I can understand your disappointment.
the scene where Chun Li is wearing the closest outfit to the games outfit...fail. The one chance of doing some justice to a film that needs to re invent the franchise, & it doesnt half make her look attractive. Hair was close & her face is always great, but the outfit....yuck. I know I'm gonna hate this, but the old school gamer in me is going to force me to go-(damn it!)
drich90212-your proposal of using Mickey Rourke is an awesome idea! He's got the build & the grunt to pass it. I only hope they'll go to a sfx expert for wardrobe instead of going to some french womans clothes designer like they did the last. It may have passed for look, but it didnt look practical use, hopefully someone will do a good representation of it by remaining faithful to the outfit, but it will look like something that wont tear in a scuffle.
wow, a prequel that looks like it wont disappoint!
I remember after T2 Arnold was talking of doing a toothfairy movie, but it was a mean army leutenant who was sentenced as the fairy, & was not allowed to use foul language & such. I wonder if this is the same story just rewritten with Dwayne Johnson in mind hence the Grid Iron involvement ?
bythe way...is the "hamana hamana hamana" from Eddie Murphys Delierious? extreme lols- good god! I saw Delerious as a new release on VHS! how old am I?! *faint*
great review with the average moviegoer in mind. Quite often its hard for guys to take a gamble on what to watch with their significant other. This helps in that respect, & respect is what I's got for you! cheers again...(take Beebs offer!)
Thanks for the heads up on how bad this is going to be. I'm glad you stated you were a fan of the previous two, as I am, & I would not have listened for it not for that statement. Escapism via popcorn fun movies is what I enjoy, but this sounds like it's going to hurt. I really appreciate the fact that you put in "spoiler alert" as well-I chose to read further, & that scene sounds so silly, I have decided to not see this at all. Hopefully many more wont, & it will reflect in the figures so all those execs who try desperately to rob sincere fans get the idea-we're not a stupid generation. Keep up the great work!
Moviemaniack...what are you, 6? Stop "trying" to sound intellectual, do some research instead of seeing a trailer more than once, & learn how to be consistant with the tone you're applying. Using economics & then words like "drek" makes you come across like a joke with a stupid punch line. Pointless.
to "Spooq2000" I'm about to buy a PS3 for the bluray function, & I already have the Samsung HD TV, what do you mean as it's not as good? I'd love to find out before I commit to buying one.
*raise eyebrow in interest*
I 2nd Jennifer Esposito.
soooo cant wait
wtf...he's not even asian! In the early 90's, talks with Jackie Chan to do a HK version of this...oh how I wish that went ahead