I was recently invited, along with other members of the press, to visit the sets of three TNT programs all in one exciting day. We were all heading to visit Saving Grace, The Closer and the brand new TNT original drama Raising the Bar, from Steven Bochco. While we did go to Raising the Bar first, the show's airdate has not been announced yet so look for that piece in the coming months. In the meantime, lets see what the set of Saving Grace had to offer.
When we got off the big, air-conditioned bus, we had just finished watching the second season premiere of Saving Grace on those little bus monitors hooked to a DVD player. Let's just say that this season starts out with quite a flurry of excitement, folks. Anyway, right as we got off the bus in Sylmar, CA, we could see Holly Hunter and Kenny Johnson (who came to this show off the heels of one of my favorite shows ever, The Shield) and Bookeem Woodbine just walking around the set casually. We were told that a different group of actors would be waiting in different rooms on the set and groups of reporters would all rotate through these different rooms. The first set we were taken to was a dungy bar set, where Holly Hunter's Grace does the majority of her boozing. Waiting for us were the lovely Laura San Giacomo, who portray's Grace's best friend Rhetta Rodriguez and Leon Rippy, who portrays Grace's unorthodox angel, Earl. Here's what these two actors had to say about this series.
Laura San Giacomo and Leon Ripppy
Laura, how do you and Holly prepare for your roles? It really seems like it's flowing. Do you both have sort of the same process?
Laura San Giacomo: I think it's probably more chemistry than similarity, although we do have similar backgrounds. We went to the same school She graduated from Carnegie Mellon the year before I got there, so we have similar history backgrounds, coming from the theater and all of that. There is something that happens when we just start working that's pretty instantaneous.
We were watching the season premiere on the bus. It seems like the season gets off to quite a bang.
Larua San Giacomo: (Laughs) Literally. Within the first five minutes. Wow. That was great to watch. It was fun to watch and exciting.
So what episode are you guys on right now? What are you filming?
Leon Rippy: Six.
And you, Leon, get to play an angel. That doesn't get to happen every day.
Leon Rippy: No, especially with these kind of teeth (Laughs). It's a blessing to play a role like this, espeically after so many unredeeming characters that I've played in my career.
Laura, your part is part of a small contingent of women who are redefining sexy after 40. Why do you think Hollywood is finally coming around?
Laura San Giacomo: I'm IN that group?? I am?
You own that group.
Laura San Giacomo: All right, so what? Now give me more, more please.
How do you define sexy?
Laura San Giacomo: Well, I think that when you watch someone doing something that they're really good at, that's sexy. Whether it's...
Leon Rippy: ... driving a truck...
Laura San Giacomo: ... driving a truck or doing stand-up, acting, running a corporation, to me, there's something really sexy about the combination of confidence and flying by the seat of your pants. Maybe that's what it is, it is truly from inside.
It's great that Hollywood is finally recognizing older women.
Laura San Giacomo: I know. It was such a struggle for so long and now, the whole landscape is, everywhere you turn there are strong, great, sexy, fabulous, crazy, mixed-up, competent, intelligent and conflicted women. They're mult-dimensional, all over the TV landscape.
When were you first aware of Holly's work? Where did you first see her in where you just went, 'Wow'?
Laura San Giacomo: Well, for me, she was legendary when I first got to college. Her name was on the wall and there was something called the Freshman Curse, where you couldn't put your name on the wall. She was one of five freshman that put their name on the wall and maybe three of them had been cut, wait, all four of them had been cut other than Holly. I stared at her name before I had even seen a picture of her. I knew she was a legend. Then, I saw her in Miss Firecracker. I think that was the first time I saw her, off-Broadway, when I graduated. I think she had already done Crimes of the Heart, but I was at school, but, of course, we would hear that because she was an alumni, so, she belonged to us. She held, what is it, the bar for our future, like, oh, we can do that too. She was part of my performing, who I was as an actor. She was there the first day.
What drew you to this project? Did Holly have any bearing on that or was it the character or the script in general?
Leon Rippy: Well, what drew me to it was another audition (Laughs). You (Laura) were just contacted, I think, but for me it was different. This one I went in for the audition and, it's happened a couple of times in my life where I went in and nothing but garbage comes out. I don't know why. It was a natural kind of role for me and I felt like I was comfortable in it. I walked in and I blew a line. Usually when you do that, your temperature goes up a half a degree. It did and I got to a couple of more lines and I blew another one. I just drew a blank. I just stopped and I said, 'Guys, I'm really sorry. This has only happened a couple of times. I don't know why it's happening today, but it is.' I was mortified. Anyway, I garbled through it and I left and before I got to the elevator they said, 'Would you come back and do it again?' I did and I made it through that time but I still felt awful. I went home and called my agent and said, 'This was a terrible, terrible audition,' and he said, 'Well, you've got a call-back.' I came back and I met Holly and there was something across the room that connected between she and I. On the way out of that audition, which was a good audition, I stopped at the door and asked her if she grew up rural or urban and she said rural. I said, 'Good.' So there were three more auditions and the last one was with all the suits at TNT. We were down to the wire. We left and after that audition I drove about a mile away and I got a phone call. It was Holly and she said, 'I just wanted to congratulate you. You're my angel, and I'm so excited.' It's a dream role for me. I can't tell you how thrilled enough I am for doing this.
A lot of characters like Holly's character are on the edge of flawed and frightening. You seem to be the touchstone. Do you feel like you're sort of the glue, holding all of these personalities together?
Laura San Giacomo: No, I mean, I don't feel that, I just play whatever it is. I just sort of play Rhetta so I don't feel all of that. I don't feel the spokes of the wheel, or however I'm doing that, but I do know that there's a certain part of Rhetta, a certain aspect to that character that is just waiting to catch people as they get spun out. I mean, it's all about Grace, for me. It's all about loving Grace and Grace's life and holding her.
Leon Rippy: Me too.
Laura San Giacomo: Yeah, and that's the thing that we have in common. I feel like I'm here working on Earth and he's working on another level, but we have the same job, in a essence.
Laura, are you going to get a love life in this upcoming season?
Laura San Giacomo: Well if I'm part of the people-who-are-over-40-and-sexy... (Laughs). I don't know. I just do what they tell me to do (Laughs).
After that we were whisked across the set to the set of Grace's house and sitting in the living room were Holly Hunter and Kenny Johnson, who portrays one of Grace's flame's, Ham Dewey. Before we got started and situated in the cozy living room, I had to tell the very affable Johnson that I was a huge fan of The Shield, to which he replied, "Oh, thanks man. Wait 'till you see the finale." Even though he was killed off in the shocking Season 5 finale, he must be still close with the cast and crew if he knows how it is all going to end for the last season that starts up in September. We all made our introductions to Holly and Kenny and sat down to have a nice friendly chat in their "living room." Here's what this unique tandem had to say.
Holly Hunter and Kenny Johnson
Do you think your character is ever going to have a monogamous relationship with one man?
Holly Hunter: Oh, you meant my character (Laughs).
Kenny Johnson: When she's 93, maybe.
Holly Hunter: I have to say, that is where there is a certain, inherent desire for a man to be the answer to all of women's dillema's. In Grace's case, I don't think that's... the deal (Laughs). I just don't.
What is it like playing such a unique character? You just don't see a character like this. How is it being Grace?
Holly Hunter: Well, it's pretty fun. Yeah.
(Laughs) Well, obviously you're a great actress, but all the things she does like dance around naked. What is it like just being really out there?
Holly Hunter: It's kind of a dream come true, to get to play someone who doesn't have normal limitations. Who doesn't put normal limitations on her own self, doesn't censor her own nature or desires. I love the episode last year where Henry, the coroner, he lost his cat and he had a great investment in his cat. His cat was kind of his family. When his cat died, Grace had sex with him. That was like a perfect example, a perfect gesture of who she is. There was something healing in the gesture. I find her healing or extraordinarily generous. It's not just all from narcissistic fulfillment, it's from an extreme desire to fulfill others needs or to help them. It's an interesting, complicated portrait of someone.
You're part of this small contingent of women who are redefining sexy after 40. Why do you think that Hollywood is now recognizing that older is sexy and how do you define sexy?
Holly Hunter: Well, it kind of all started with cable. This thing with cable, I keep thinking, my great fear is, it's all going to be over soon, because it feels a little like the wild wild West. It feels a little like going to Russia now, or something. You go to Moscow now and all bets are off. Anything is possible. Where's the law? It feels a little crazy, like nobody has quite got a handle on it yet. My greatest fear is that somebody is, like the FCC is going to find a way to wrangle this thing into submission. You feel that the Internet will eventually... you know, Big Brother will finally catch up. It's allowed writers and, of course, actors to explore a broader realm of what it means to be alive. That, of course, includes women over 40. I feel as much alive now, if not more, than I have at any other point in my life. Creatively, I don't think I've reached a zenith at 30 or something. I keep living and keep wanting to express stuff.
Kenny Johnson: She's ageless, I think. I saw her in the movie Thirteen, with her daughter, at times she looked like she's 18 or 19. Holly just has this timeless beauty to her. Besides that, you get the character Grace who, you know, pretty much explores anything and everything, but yeah.
Holly Hunter: What's also cool about this series is I think all of the characters, maybe because we're cops, but even with Rhetta, characters bring in a lot of different ages. I feel like we're not acting the ages that we are, like we're adolescents. There's an adolescent behavior that is really even more explored in the second season, most definitely. There's an adolescent vein that runs through the behaviors of the characters in this show.
Kenny Johnson: Yeah, man. Like we're 16 again.
Holly Hunter: Yeah. We have a blast! But being cops demands a certain kind of youthfulness because it's coupled with, you're not fleeing the danger, you're running into it. The whole thing with fight or flight is something that generally gets knocked off of you, the older than you get. You want to fight less, you want to regulate your life in a way where you don't have to participate in the extremities, and cops do. Cops are going to where it's wild, cops are going to where there's chaos and they're obviously digging on it. That's happening in this show. Even with Rhetta and Grace. They've known each other since the third grade so there's an element of infantile behavior that can happen with Rhetta and Grace. At the same time, I'm 50. Sometimes I play Grace as a 50-year-old woman. Sometimes I play Grace like she's 30. There's all different ages that I think we all operate in. Sometimes I think Ham is a fully-mature adult male of 40 and sometimes I think that we're both 13-year-olds together. It's very dramatically rich that way.
Kenny, what was one of the biggest adjustments you had, coming from The Shield to this? They're sort of similar characters but not really the same.
Kenny Johnson: Yeah. The other guy, Lem, had a conscious about what he did, but yet he constantly broke the law, justified why they were killing people. This becomes a little more real. My guy doesn't cross that line that much. I can drink, I can kind of get out of line, but to a degree. It's much more to-the-book. I mean, look, I come in here and I've never played a leading man with a female, ever, in my career. Cold Case I did a little bit of it, so for me to play opposite a female that I have this complete feeling for, as a partner and as a human being, is definitely touching in a lot of places that I haven't explored before. There are a lot of layers going on that I didn't have to deal with in The Shield that I'm dealing with here.
Holly Hunter: It's a totally different playing field.
Kenny Johnson: Oh, completely. Every day, down there, it was like, 'OK man, where's my sawed-off shotgun?' Kicking and smashing and it here it was like, 'No, we don't do that here. We're a little more by-the-book.'
Holly Hunter: But, it's like The Shield was written by a man and this is written by a woman. I mean, The Shield is created by a man, and this is created by a woman. Immediately, you have a woman's sensability that's permeating and then you have an iconic male lead in The Shield and an iconic female lead here in the form of Grace Hanadarko. She is iconic. That's the cool thing about this show is... that (The Shield was an exploration of real bonding, men bonding in that way that soldiers do in that way that people who are involved in illegal activities have to bond. It's a totally different exploration from this which is an adult relationship that Grace and Ham have. It's very adult.
Kenny Johnson: It's incredibly intimate too, in a lot of ways. For me, at least.
Holly Hunter: Oh, not for me (Laughs). There are feeling in that relationship and it continues to be explored in the second season and that's kind of female terrain.
I have to say, in watching the pilot, when I see you and Laura (San Giacomo) together, there's a little, almost like a kiss coming.
Kenny Johnson: Right? That's what I thought when I saw that. I was like, 'Dude, that's so sexy,' not that I'm saying I'm into that, but when I saw that scene...
Holly Hunter: What scene?
Kenny Johnson: You and Laura in the bar. You guys got so close it did feel like you were going to.
Sadly, we were cut off and asked to rotate once more before we could find out if Holly thinks Grace would ever "go in that direction," but that'll happen. We all shook hands with our "living room" hosts and we were off yet again, this time to the police station. We walked into the conference room of the police station, in which the walls were adorned with city maps and wanted fliers and we were met by Lorraine Toussaint, who plays Grace's edgy captain, Kate Perry and Bailey Chase, who portrays Grace's fellow detective Butch Ada, who had a brief affair with Grace last season. Here's what this duo had to say.
Lorraine Toussaint and Bailey Chase
Lorraine, you're able to keep Grace just a little bit under control. She respects you but you also know who she is and what she is.
Lorraine Toussaint: I know what kind of animal she is. We've been to the pen together. That's the fun part about it, what goes on between between Grace and I behind closed doors, that kind of freedom that we've got. It's cut-to-the-chase, it's based on extreme familiarity in the trenches, walking the streets. We have worn clear heels together (Laughs). This season, we push that envelope a bit more. Perry is having an affair, for example, with, I think, someone from IA, which gets really dicey and Grace is the only one that has thus far found out, that can really threaten my entire career. Now we've got each other's secrets, so it's kind of upping the stakes a bit. The season opener is highly provokative.
Yeah, we saw it on the bus.
Lorraine Toussaint: Sweet Jesus. The meat in the lap thing was like, whoa. Can we do this on TV? I really look forward to the mail, and there will be a lot of mail.
How much mail have you gotten so far?
Lorraine Toussaint: You know, (creator) Nancy (Miller), I really think Nancy looks forward to mail. I think we've gotten a lot of mail and I think we're going to get a lot of mail, especially from the religious, the Catholics. It ain't Touched by an Angel and that's the good news. I think Nancy is really pushing the envelope and really questioning spirituality and the possibilities of the church and religion in this day and age. We're moving forward and the church has to keep up with it and who the ideas of who's got God and who doesn't, we've got to bust that wide open.
As an actor do you enjoy having less boundaries as to what you can do on cable television>
Lorraine Toussaint: There's a certain amount of freedom in being on cable television and being out here in Sylmar, which is far. The network just can't pop over for lunch and poke at it. That's really nice. I think Nancy and (executive producer) Gary (A. Randall) pretty much take the heat. I know Nancy goes to the mat and I know Holly goes to the mat, in terms of what we can and cannot do. If I was them, I'd be scared of those two girls. It's cable and I think they're enjoying the provocativity of what they're really bringing out. There's more freedom in cable, absolutely.
Bailey Chase: I was going to say that TNT has definitely given us a long leash that way and we're able to make the show that we want and, as actors, we're able to take things that we wouldn't be able to say on network television. That makes it more interesting for us. Week to week, we get that script and you really don't know what you're going to get. I mean, Law & Order, but there is a box there. You know what you're going to get. Names and faces are going to change, in terms of guest cast, but that's about it. Saving Grace, I've said it before, is more of a show about life. It connects, but it's not a straight line. It's all over the place.
Lorraine Toussaint: Just to piggyback on that, how cool is it that TNT is willing to invest in women over 40?
Lorraine Toussaint: Lets just talk about that for a moment. They're finally catching up to the fact that...
... Not all of us are 20.
Lorraine Toussaint: That not all of us are 20 and that we get so much more interesting when we hit 40 and plus because that's when women get really fascinating. That's when we're sexy, that's when we're braver, that's when we don't give a fuck, that's when we step out there, when we stop worrying about how everything looks and falls and sits. To have a network that's ahead because, I think, you're going to watch in 10 years, the (Big 4) networks are finally going to catch up with that. We really are more provocative in our 40s and 50s and they're going to be behind. We're ahead. Kyra Sedgwick, Holly Hunter, I mean, they are really hitting it hard and that is exciting because, as a woman, I'm almost 50 and feeling ageism in the business and finally finding a network that comes up and says that, not only don't we care but we're going to focus on that and we're going to celebrate that and it's just thrilling.
When you watch Holly's character get so desperate and so weird sometimes, how are you shaking that off? Does it flip you out when you see how over the edge she can go?
Lorraine Toussaint: No. I also don't watch a lot of the shows. I kind of glance at them. I have a three-year-old so... it's on too late (Laughs). Also watching the shows isn't particularly interesting to me, being in the trenches is. This is the stuff we do on a day-to-day basis. That's where I get off and I'm done.
I was thinking about the character, to have her have a kid, something uneven like that.
Lorraine Toussaint: That's actually one of the things that we've talked about at the writers meeting. We'll see how that plays out.
So do you get to talk to Nancy and get to bring her ideas about your character?
Lorraine Toussaint: We had a wonderful meeting at the beginning of the season with the writers, in terms of our input, where do we see the characters going and where do they see the characters going? They took a lot of our ideas and we heard a lot of their ideas and I think a lot of it is being fleshed out. (To Bailey) You've got a sister coming out.
Bailey Chase: Yeah, just spitballing back and forth and it's cool when they really listen. We've seen some line changes and some nicknames and stuff like that.
Lorraine Toussaint: I said I had to get laid this season.
Lorraine Toussaint: Perry's gotta get laid, and hey and in Episode 3, she does.
After that hilarious session, we walked right into the next room, the main hub of the police station where we sat down to chat with our last group of actors for this set, Bookeem Woodbine, who portrays death-row inmate Leon Cooley, who also has some sort of connection to Earl and Gregory Cruz, who plays the Indian-American detective Bobby Stillwater. We all shook hands and took our seats and chatted with these actors on opposite sides of the law in the show.
Bookeem Woodbine and Gregory Cruz
Bookeem, how has your experience been so far?
Bookeem Woodbine: It's been fantastic. It's been really really exceeding all my expectations. I was never really the kind of actor who thought he would find himself as a series regular, or would want to be on a show. So, for me to really be enjoying it as much as I am, is just because the writing is great. The cast is really really great and not just as their talent but as people. The producers are hands-on and effective, but also, they're creative individuals, which is a rare dichotomy to have a producer have a creative mindset about it. They also direct, so this is a unique situation. I'm having a blast.
Gregory Cruz: Oh, I love it too. I was going to say also that (executive producers) Gary (A. Randall) directs and Artie (Mandelberg) was an editor for many years. It's a wonderful relationship with them, absolutely.
We watched the season premiere on the bus on the way over here and it's pretty... insane. How does that premiere set up the rest of the season? Like what else can we expect from the rest of the season?
Gregory Cruz: Boy, how does it set it up. Well, it's the second season so we've got a season under our belt. We've managed to get pretty high in the ratings with that and fortunately we were all busting last year and we're all busting this year. It's easy to get complacent. We got here the second season and just the look in everybody's eye was, 'Let's do it.' Now we've got it under our belt, people know what we can do, let's show them what we can do with it. The writing has been even tighter, if that's possible. People are really eager to get what's been written and really pop it. I'm trying not to give stuff away because this season is really exciting for me. I think that the episodes are even better than last season, if I can even say that. We'll leave it there. It's very exciting.
Can you tell us any of what your character is going to get into?
Gregory Cruz: I can't tell you that, but nice try though (Laughs).
What difference do you think having the show set in Oklahoma makes, as far as setting the show apart?
Gregory Cruz: Wow. We were just dealing with that. I'll make mine brief because I'm sure he has a lot to add to that. What I said last time was the world is not based around the ports of call. Our world is not based around the ports of call. Nancy specifically put this in Oklahoma because she's from Oklahoma and there is life in Oklahoma. There is a whole world in the South. They don't have a whole lot to do with New York or Atlanta or Los Angeles. It's kind of taking you into a place that doesn't get a lot of press, isn't heard about a lot except if there's a flood or a tornado. She's saying, 'Look, there's a lot more going on over here than you think. You need to come over here and see the rest of us because we live the same life you do, and we deal with the same issues you do.' Especially in the Bible Belt, we deal with a lot of stuff that people believe in more than New York or Los Angeles.
Bookeem Woodbine: I think the fact that it's set in Oklahoma is great because, like Greg says, there are so many stories. We took a trip, almost like a field trip for 10 days. There's such a vibrant life there that, as Americans who get a lot of our information through popular media, there is a vacuum in a lot of people's minds, that have never been to Oklahoma, from like the Midwest or the South, about these places, because we think, New York, L.A., Miami, Chicago, Atlanta, Philadelphia, that's in the forefront of our consciousness. Then you think Oklahoma, and you literally have a space. Oklahoma? I'm not getting anything to reference this information. So, to actually go there and see, there are some really cool people in Oklahoma and Oklahoma has a really cool history that is just bad-ass. I mean, in the 1800s, stuff was going down. It was crazy. So I think their tumultuous, exciting, adventerous history, you could almost feel it in the spirit of the people. They have a very pioneering spirit, just in general. They're refined, but at the same time, they're in touch with their ruggedness because it was in the frontier. That energy is there and, as far as people's, I call it, adaptation to the modern world while still preserving a certain outdated mindset, there was the craziest thing. I was there and I was at a bar and I was having a drink with a couple of college kids, we were just horsing around. One of them said something about God, but they way he did it wasn't being preachy or anything, he was that in touch with his relationship to God that it was normal to bring it in to the conversation like if you were talking about your favorite sporting team or something like that. All of that, the infusion of all these different things, really makes Oklahoma a really unique place and it's just as exciting to watch on TV as Miami or New York or L.A. It really is a special town and I think we're really blessed to be shooting something about Oklahoma.
So, how many episodes are you in now?
Bookeem Woodbine: Well, you're not going to see me a lot until mid-season. There are some surprises coming with my character so you'll see me in Episode 3 and then 8 and then you'll start seeing me more.
So are there any other projects you're looking at?
Gregory Cruz: The hard part with that is we have to be here. If they need us at a moment's notice, we have to get here. There was something that came up recently that I wanted to audition for, Chris Eyre is directing it, a Native-American director, a project in Boston for PBS. I was like, 'Oh man, please.' But we kind of worked the numbers and, well if I'm in Boston and unless they say absolutely they'll let you loose, which they won't, I couldn't do this, even if I got the part, but I'd still have to audition for it. So, it's tough. It's not the easiest for us, because it's like being married. You're married, you're with her. That's it.
Gregory, have you gotten much feedback from the Native American community about representing the Native American culture on such a popular show?
Gregory Cruz: That's a real good question on several levels. Sometimes I wonder if they know I'm here. There have been times where I've reached out, when the show started, and tried to inform as many people as I knew in the industry, which is quite a few. I know a lot of people that are Natives that are in the industry. I had reached out to them to say, 'We've got this wonderful opportunity for this role model on this show,' and all I heard was that hum, like there was no one on the other line of the phone. It made me wonder where the hell is everybody. I don't picture myself as a representative of Native people. I have Native blood, Native on both sides of the border and Spanish. The Latins as well, where is everybody? I'm sorry but I'm being honest. I did Latin theater for a long time. I left messages for a lot of people. You all need to jump on this bandwagon. I'm not asking you for something, I'm just saying, 'Come over here. We've got something, man. Come here!' I think, maybe, and I'm not blaming anybody for anything, so please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying, 'These people are crazy.' I think maybe they're just not aware of it and maybe I went about it the wrong way, I don't know. But I think the more people become aware of the show, the more they're going to say, 'Wait a minute. We need to start communicating with these people and get involved with them.'
What's the best part about being on the show for both of you guys?
Bookeem Woodbine: He spoke about the catering before.
Gregory Cruz: (Laughs) They cook a mean fish like you wouldn't believe. I could get off on the fish. We're going to have catfish in a minute here. They do wonderful things with the fish. What's the best thing about the show. I think for now, for the moment, it's learning what I'm learning from the people that I'm working with. The experience on this show is profound, for me, personally, because of the topics, because of the people I'm working with and where I'm at, because of the timeliness of it. All of that wrapped together, I just take stuff from here and it's like, 'Wow. You thought you knew how to act? Jesus! These people can act! Time to up the game!' Sometimes I've gotten home and went, 'Yeah, man,' and there's other times where I've went, 'What the hell am I doing? Am I out of my league?' Then I went back the next day where someone would stick you with an elbow and just go, 'Knock it off.' It's that kind of atmosphere around here. It just affects me so profoundly and I think the show has such an effect on me, in my personal life, and I think that's the best part of the show for me.
Bookeem Woodbine: For me, the best part of the show is the ability to come to work and have this great material all the time and be able to work in a character that has some type of longevity, in the sense that I'm a more mercenarial kind of person. Get in, do your job and get out. When you work in series television and you're in a show for a couple of season, it's like your character has a longer life, if that makes any sense. You're not just there for a couple of months and the people aren't just seeing you one time and in one context. You get to show how he's feeling on a good day, on a bad day, on a good between day and really flesh out. You get to show more range when you get an opportunity like this. I have more of an opportunity to show more range.
That last interview closed out our time on the set of Saving Grace and it was quite an enjoyable time. We got to meet some amazing talent and pick their brains a little bit about one of the most popular shows on television. The energy on that set was just amazing. Even as we were about to leave, Kenny Johnson just hopped up on our bus to check it out and thank us for coming. Awesome.
The second season of Saving Grace premieres on Monday, July 14 at 10 PM ET. I've already seen it, folks, and it really is a doozy. Check it out!
However, that was only one leg of my three-legged trip on the TNT tour, as it were. Look out for Part II where I go on the set of The Closer. Peace in. Gallagher out!