What if the Nazis who were spread out around the world, away from Germany, kept working after the end of World War II and the demise of Adolph Hitler? That was the direct inspiration for the First Order seen in this December's eagerly awaited sequel Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Empire Magazine has released a sneak peek from it's upcoming interview with director J.J. Abrams. And his focus is solely on the dark side of the force. He not only lifts the veil back on the new army of Stormtroopers and their leaders, he also offers more insight into Kylo Ren and his master.

In Star Wars: The Force Awakens, The Empire has now transformed into the First Order, and the Rebellion is now known as The Resistance. But the full state of the universe has not yet been unveiled. There is a lot more to learn about the inner-workings and structuring of the various armies spread throughout the galaxy. We won't learn the true origins of The First Order until later this year. But J.J. Abrams was willing to tease how things came to be, some thirty years after the events seen in Return of the Jedi. It seems the First Order are not quite the Imperial remnant many had thought them to be. And it sounds like Star Wars: The Force Awakens is an alternate take on our own post-war history. He explains.

"That all came out of conversations about what would have happened if the Nazis all went to Argentina but then started working together again?What could be born of that? Could The First Order exist as a group that actually admired The Empire? Could the work of The Empire be seen as unfulfilled? And could Vader be a martyr? Could there be a need to see through what didn't get done?"

As we previously learned, Kylo Ren, played by Adam Driver, belongs to an evil organization known as Knights of Ren. Their background hasn't been fully explored or revealed. And we still know little about Kylo's mission in this new trilogy. It has been confirmed that he is a Darth Vader obsessive. And that he scoures the galaxy looking for ancient Jedi and Sith artifacts, one of them being Anakin's original blue lightsaber, passed onto Luke Skywalker by Obi-Wan Kenobi, yet lost during the battle with Darth Vader on Cloud City. Empire Magazine has convinced director J.J. Abrams to reveal just a little bit more about this new villain.

In the process, we get to learn more about Andy Serkis' character, a fully CGI/Mo-Cap creation that can be heard narrating the first teaser trailer. His name has already been confirmed as Supreme Leader Snoke, but fans have thus far been confused about his alliance. Is he on the light or dark side of the Force. J.J. Abrams calls him a very bad man. And he has a firm grip on Kylo Ren.

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Many fans have wondered why Kylo Ren is not Darth Ren. Why his vicious looking broadsaber is so archaic. Seriously, what is with this guy? All will be answered in Star Wars: The Force Awakens. We'll learn the origins of his mask, and what it means for the wearer. But we won't have to wait to learn that he's not trained in the art of the Jedi or the Sith. And this is where Snoke comes in. J.J. Abrams explains.

"Kylo Ren is not a Sith. He works under Supreme Leader Snoke, who is a powerful figure on the Dark Side of the Force."

It isn't known if EmpireOnline will dribble out any more insightful information from director J.J. Abrams before their latest issue hits newsstands this Thursday. The magazine is promising a massive winter preview that not only delves deeper into the mysteries behind Star Wars: The Force Awakens, but also gives genre fans a look at The Martian, Everest, Crimson Peak and The Hateful Eight. Surely some fan will buy their own copy of the magazine and share the rest of it with us. So stay tuned for that if you feel unmotivated to buy your own copy. You cheap miser!

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